Donald Trump and racism issue: Pastor loses cool on TV

Two professionals in their respective fields with different political and social opinions -- both apparently wanting to be heard but failing to listen -- have lost their cool on television, all because of a discussion on presumptive presidential nominee Donald Trump and the issue of racism.

Screenshot of Jason Osborne, Micheal Nutter, Darrell Scott, and Tara Setmayer on CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront." June 2016. | CNN/OutFront with Erin Burnett

In a discussion on CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront," a panel of four, namely: Tara Setmayer, CNN political commentator; Micheal Nutter, former mayor of Philadelphia; Pastor Darrell Scott, founder of New Spirit Revival Center; and Jason Osborne, a supporter of Trump, were discussing a comment made by the business mogul at a rally in California where he said, "Look at my African-American over here."

Burnett asked if the comment is "clumsy or racist." 

Nutter said that, at minimum, it's ignorant. He thinks that it is "some very strange and disturbing behavior" and Trump is going to take down many Republicans across the country because of "this kind of bizarre behavior."

Meanwhile, Scott, who has long expressed his support for Trump, said that the comment does not bother him at all.

"I really believe that he was utilizing that as a term of endearment," he said. "He is trying to be more politically correct in using politically correct terms, and America has never been this sensitive before. I mean, this entire country is walking on eggshells, and I believe this is indicative of the social climate of this country."

He went on to say that during his lifetime, there have been different terms used for African Americans, including negros, blacks, and people of color. It's not racial, he argued; rather, it's cultural. He also said Trump was genuinely glad that the man in the rally was there.

Setmayer said this assessment is like political Stockholm Syndrome -- Stockholm Syndrome being a psychological phenomenon wherein a hostage has positive feelings toward their captor.

"My 'blank' is not a term of endearment," she said. "It's not the fact that he called him an African American, it's the fact that he felt the need to have to point him out because he was black and in the crowd and say, 'Oh, look, there's my African American," like does he own you, does he own his 'fans'? I mean this is not the first time ... "

Scott apparently could not contain himself, and he and Setmayer were speaking at the same time.

When Osborne managed to speak, he surmised that Trump's "brain got ahead of his words." Nutter, however, said that Trump is a 60+ year old man who is "still trying to figure out how to treat people decently."

Setmayer later tried to make a point that it is about people bringing up someone's ethinicity or saying racist things.

"Tara, you're trying to act like you're not aware of the racial climate in America," Scott said. "The only reason I stand out as a Trump supporter is because I'm black ... so don't try to act like we're in America but we don't understand the racial climate of this country."

"So then you're acknowledging that it's okay for Donald Trump to parade you as a political pawn because you're black?" Setmayer asked. She was asking if Scott is okay with Trump using race and with people being racial.

"You're like that," Scott said. "You find me an aberration because I'm black and I support Trump."

With sparks flying and the two arguring, Nutter was able to calmly say, "This is not about any of the four of us. Donald Trump is running for president of the United States of America. He cannot control himself. He is not ready for that job."